tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4611043893536637860.post548877780050554549..comments2023-12-03T19:24:13.151+00:00Comments on the cellulord is watching: PROMETHEUSCellulordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14673507296965428476noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4611043893536637860.post-31200576327090553872014-01-20T17:37:32.042+00:002014-01-20T17:37:32.042+00:00Probably the most logical explanation I've rea...Probably the most logical explanation I've read about why the Engineers wanted to kill us off. After all it's human arrogance to suggest that we were the intended result when the Engineers seeded the planet. Good overall review too of the film. The film has generated too much comment when it doesn't really deserve to. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4611043893536637860.post-43959290975196264172012-07-02T18:20:41.078+01:002012-07-02T18:20:41.078+01:00It's an interesting notion that maybe we human...It's an interesting notion that maybe we humans are part of the evolution of the Alien Xenomorph. Maybe that's why the Engineers created us in the first place.<br /><br />Oops, steady now, I'm starting to sound like a Scientologist : )cellulordhttp://cellulord.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4611043893536637860.post-84131124905485432372012-07-02T18:18:12.664+01:002012-07-02T18:18:12.664+01:00Good points, well made! Scott changed the name to...Good points, well made! Scott changed the name to Prometheus in order, I feel, to add that reference - both to the mythical character and the 'modern' manifestation. <br /><br />Every story about the creation of life seems, whether deliberately or not, to wander into Shelley territory. <br /><br />There is clearly a lot going on beneath the surface of this film ... I just wish they'd have had the common decency to explain *some* of it to we poor, cash-paying cinema-goers.cellulordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4611043893536637860.post-69080551124852225962012-07-02T17:40:56.053+01:002012-07-02T17:40:56.053+01:00This is the main unravelling of the movie for me:
...This is the main unravelling of the movie for me:<br /><br />- Worms evolve when crawling in black goo.<br />- yet, Humans disintegrate when they ingest the black goo.<br />- But, worm acid and black goo turns you into a raging zombie..<br />- Xenomorphs are born when a human male, who has ingested black goo, has intercourse with a human female, who then hosts a squid-like creature, which must then lay eggs in another host, so that a Xenomorph can burst out of its chest... oh yeah.. duh..<br /><br />..And yet the Engineers have seen that life form before as the reviewer points out... (the mural of the Queen on the wall in the cave)<br /><br />I feel that a writer can leave unanswered questions and mystery, but in my opinion this movie was just sloppy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4611043893536637860.post-10335620117835931952012-06-17T07:38:05.654+01:002012-06-17T07:38:05.654+01:00Of all the reviews I have read about this movie, a...Of all the reviews I have read about this movie, as well as yours, I notice that no one seems to make the connection of this movie to Frankenstein, the novel. The only hitch is that the movie is told from the point of view of the monster, the humans and David in particular as the monster and the Engineers as Dr. Frankenstein (me and the wife started calling the one Engineer that wakes up Victor). <br />The parallels between the novel and Prometheus start to add up pretty much from the beginning. David, as the substitute monster, spends the two years where everyone is in stasisĀ (even Victor though his stasis is obviously much longer) learning the language of his actual creators (the Engineers) and creepily reading the dreams of the humans on the ship. The monster does the same creepy language learning with the DeLacey family and much the same happens when both David and the monster confront their makers, the monster being reviled as such and David getting his damn head ripped off. <br />The movie starts with an Engineer making his decision in front of a vast amount of water, just as the novel starts with Captain Walton on a boat, or with Victor standing in front of his beloved Lake Geneva depending on whom you think the Engineers truly are. The Engineers decide that their creations must be killed, just as Victor does and seem to follow on this quest despite what it is doing to their society. The awoken Engineer kills everyone and immediately goes off to kill the earth they created, blind rage just like Frankenstein's at his own creation. The parallels are there aplenty and I do think they add much to the tone of the film when we realize that the Engineers see us as the beasts of a bad idea of creation. David hints at such when talking to the sperm donor, sorry Dr. Holloway. <br /><br />Weyland comes at the solution of death through his creators, just as Frankenstein comes to create his monster through a want to cure death. The ocean is transposed, except for the beginning, with space. Every memory involves a little girl, just as the monster first (more famously in the first Universal movie than the book) first comes into contact with a little girl by a river (just as in the flashback scene the good doctor's younger self is by a river). And finally just as the monster after being rejected by his creator goes on to kill everything the creator holds sacred so Mrs. c-section abortion flies off into space to hold her creators accountable. <br /><br />Prometheus doesn't directly mean the god, the subtitle of Frankenstein was "The Modern Prometheus". <br /><br />I don't think these allusions help the movie overcome its awful supporting cast and dialogue, but I do think the Frankenstein allusions, most obviously from the title, do help to separate the film from Just the Alien mythology and more solidifies itself within a literary canon. Creation and the want of creation become the focal points and not just survival or greed. <br /><br />And one positive for this movie is that it absolutely moved past the easy trap of "well keep this shit alive for the military so that I can make bank" trope and flushed it down the cliche toilet. It's a small improvement but one I think we can all agree was great to see avoided. <br /><br />I must admit as well that I couldn't help but imagine what the doctor and the talking robot head were going to do in that new spaceship of theirs. She's got two years to find more food, but what can and what will she do, I'm intrigued, or at least I couldn't help but see this turn into a Lethal Weapon cop drama in space.Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4611043893536637860.post-56077795976442123412012-06-16T01:45:17.635+01:002012-06-16T01:45:17.635+01:00It's interesting that the artwork book refers ...It's interesting that the artwork book refers to the Gigeresque mural as part of a 'shrine'. Which poses more questions. Do the Engineers have a reverence for the Alien species? After all we're all just assuming they have created them. Perhaps they see them as their own children, the race humans were intended to be? Which is why humans must fall. Perhaps they, like Ash admire their hostility, their ability to survive, their 'purity'. You don't normally create a shrine dedicated to things you don't revere in some way. Perhaps they view them as their true 'children', the pinnacle of their achievements, and like some galactic Oedipus complex they have sowed the seeds of their own destruction. Hence... Prometheus. I assumed it was the engineer's tech that humans stole that prompts the reference. We could have been thrown a curve ball. But, then again, like you say, that's getting into LOST territory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4611043893536637860.post-90930385789367767762012-06-04T20:47:24.582+01:002012-06-04T20:47:24.582+01:00I'd still like to see them do a *proper* seque...I'd still like to see them do a *proper* sequel ... Find out what happens to that crashed ship full of eggs. Have the infestation dealt with by someone other than Ripley ... Have it expand outward from being one-woman's nightmare to an entire universe's ... Very much as the Dark Horse comics did twenty-odd years ago!Cellulordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14673507296965428476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4611043893536637860.post-35881917048097100862012-06-04T19:36:48.015+01:002012-06-04T19:36:48.015+01:00one word review: meh.
A little more? nothing, bu...one word review: meh. <br /><br />A little more? nothing, but nothing in this film advance the story ofthe mythos that is alien ay all. none ofthe questions are aswered and at the end of the film, we are just where we left it al those years ago. This is apointless movie. Sad, so sad. Truthis, I got more out of Alien Resurection. - LenDKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com